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Goth

People who associate themselves or often get associated with the so-called "gothic" movement, a musical style that evolved out of british post-punk and US punk, but which is now really a collection of very diversified, "darker" styles of more electronic or more guitar-ridden [music]. In "goth" clubs, original "gothic rock" styles got mixed with industrial/EBM [music], New Wave and some alternative styles since the late 80ies. In the [mid]-90ies, labels and magazines promoted some so-called "gothic [metal]" and "industrial metal" bands out of commercial reasons, and because there were certain parallels in look and imagery of these bands to the gothic scene. In these Days, bands like Paradise Lost or Type o Negative, which were really "softer", sometimes romantic heavy metal bands were massively hyped, leading to newbies back then ignoring the original styles of the movement for those acts. In the Noughties, the metal trend waned and was replaced by another new trend towards a softer, [melody]-orientated form of EBM: "Future [Pop]" played by groups like VNV Nation and Apoptygma Berzerk. Additionally, very techno-orientated noise [music] by bands like Combichrist was getting heavy rotation in the clubs. Both styles are more accessible and easier to consume than former styles and tend to more and more replace all other styles of [music] associated with gothic scene in the club playlists, which leads to conflicts between "purists" and - usually somewhat younger - fans of the new style. Actually, there is no proper definition of a special attitude, behaviour or quality of "goth" people. It's just the crowd which is into certain branches of the musical styles associated with goth, which is more or less openly involved in the visuals by dressing up sometimes or all the time in "gothic styles" and which is seen frequently in the nightclubs, at festivals and concerts. So all these narcisstic morons around here, trying to describe goths (i.e. themselves) as especially intelligent, more artistic or non-conformist as the rest are really just indulging themselves in pathetic attempts to talk others into sharing their own deluded self-perception. If there is a positive attribute you can quite rightfully associate to goth, it should be an overall disinterest in open violence compared to "normal" club/party scenes, but there is usually a lot of behind-the-back bitching going on to compensate for that. Additionally, goth scene doesn't seem to take the same moronic pride in open [homophobia] as a lot of other poseur scenes, that's why some sexual deviants, like transsexuals and others may experience less open hate and aggression there. But they won't necessarily be easily integrated or get much attention in goth scene. Besides that, you might easily find a lot of different typical "goth" characters in the scenes, it's not really easy to find a common denominator for those people. Some are more nerdy types, some typical high-school loners, others are very vain and dandy-like, a lot of introverted, sometimes [pretty] boring fellas, some are more funny than you'd think at first, some (especially the EBM crowd) are [pretty] down-to-earth, hard-working, almost stolid types, a lot of very bitchy, moody girls. Nowadays, some of this 00's techno/cyber crowd seems to be some lukewarm version of the urban hipster, without the intellectualism and the good taste but full of the deeply self-centered meaninglessness and a "consumerist" attitude towards culture. Most of the definitions of the people around here who dislike goth and are carefully constructing a cherished prejudice about goth people for themselves, center on some perception of the goths as being the real conformists, maintaining individuality but dressing up and behaving all the same. This is essentially not a very individualistic and unique perception, as it has been ripped off the [popular] "South Park" series, where the Cure-loving creators of the show were really quite tongue-in-cheek about the mockery. But it has been taken drop-dead serious by many and has since repeatedly been barked at the goth crowd as some kind of eternal truth revealed by haters all over the net. IT'S NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUALITY, STUPID! If you're into this style, you're full of passion for it. It's about a conglomerate of - for you - really fascinating [music] and styles (and admittedly a lot of stupid ones, too), you are so commited to, you just want to be a part of it, showing it just the same as you would show your wedding ring or a tattoo with the name of your lover. There is no problem with that fixed "goth" identity, because it's really up to yourself how you interpret it and fill it with life. You don't just do this do be AGAINST this or that, society, conformists or whatever, although you may personally "use" the style in that sense. It's much more a positive stance towards the styles of the scene that interest you and which you are individually contributing to by dressing up, making [music], networking and so on. Nobody [will] EVER pay attention to you in this scene, if you are devoid of any surprises as a person and cling to some stereotypical behaviour you may associate with "being goth". That's not the way...

Moron: Hey, you think you're individualistic? HA! I've seen through you goth fags. You all are wearing [black] clothes like a uniform. Look at my completely average clothes and my boring [face]. THAT'S a sign of non-conformity. HA! Goth: I conform to things that are important to me. At least I HAVE [something] that's important to me, you know? Besides, I LOVE uniforms...

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Goth

Goth, although once an expression of individuality, is now a commercial image sold by big business. They now have shops such as Emily the Strange that promote and sell the goth image. If you shop at such places you are buying something that everyone can have and probably does have. Ergo, you are not a true goth who wishes to be individual. Goth, as well as many other social groups, is a box that people are put in so we can organise society. People are labelled to make it easier for others to relate to them. I exhibit many chracteristics of a goth (outlook of the world, sense of humour ect,) but am I one? No. This is because I choose not to buy into a commercial image that has been ruined by our "friends" big business and lemming teenagers. So, if we follow this philosiphy, everyone who calls themself a goth is a poser and everyone who dresses like a goth is just buying into a commercial entity and is therefore a sellout and a poser.

Goth: I'm so individual I dress and act just like all my friends because society tells me to.

By All the bloody names are taken!

goth

Short for Gothic. Used to refer to a musical subculture. Orginally, the goth movement was an outgrowth of the late 50's Bohemian poet-culture (the original black beret-wearing coffee-swilling poetry-reading hipsters. Be zorch, daddy-o!). The goth movement celebrated dark music and dark poetry; eloquence and intellectualism was praised. Goths dressed well, often in Victorian or Edwardian garb, always formal. Goths were fatalistic celebrants; they were dancing in the Apocalypse. Musical icons include Machines of Loving Grace and the Sisters of Mercy. Over the years, the goth movement has changed. Your typical Goth is much younger, typically in their teens. The emphasis is currently not upon creativity, but upon fashion (the blacker the better) and wannabe Alice Cooper makeup. Sarchasm and sneers are cultured and practiced. Musical darkness has changed to musical disaffection (the two are not the same, people!). Goths are no longer about creativity; they are about out-complaining each other. Attempts at creativity are mocked, with the exception of self-pitying would-be suicide-note poetry. Goth is a thing of the past.

People say Marilyn Manson is goth. Try Leonard Cohen.

By Git Offa My Lawn

Goth

1.germanic tribe from yonkies ago 2.a style of writing or artwork. 3.a group of people who listen to gothic music such as Vampyrouss, Sisters of mercy, Bella morte, Bauhus, The Cruxshadows, siouxsie and the banshees,The cure and other such bands. 4.people who dress to fit the person they are, people who dont care about social norms, or what people think of them, they always want to learn and find new ways to express themselves 5.(this is an example of not goth) people who listen to marilyn manson, slipknot, KoRn, limp biskit and hang around in the mall out side shops wearing band shirts and badly applied black eyeliner and lipstick.claiming to be different while their friend standing next to them looks like a clone.

1.check wikipedia 2.victorian style buildings, dracula, wuthering heights,jane eyre and in some respects romeo and juliet..in some ways. 3.the bands listed above.(vampyrouss and the cruxshadows beign the best there :P) 4.opposite of a teeny bopper 5.marilyn manson, those kids standing outside hot topic saying man im so goth right now.

By ParasiticVampyric

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