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in the music sense, a form of [underground music] that takes music to extremes. started in the early 80`s with bands like minor threat and black flag. i like to call this classic hardcore. then in the late 80`s there were many hardline, "positive" straightedge bands like chain of strength and [gorilla biscuits]. i like to call this oldchool hardcore. then in the early 90`s straigtedge became rediculous, and the bands got more metallic, with bands like Earth Crisis and Strife. I just call this hardcore. Then all throughout the 90s there were those [hardcore bands] with the scary, grindy sound, like converge, dillenger escape plan, or discordence axis. Then there were some bands like 10 yard fight who tried to re-create the hardcore sound of the late 80`s, a few were ok but most really sucked. This developed into what some people call "posi" hardcore. These days, you have your choice of shitty mosh hardcore, or screamo, or emo-core. Now hardcore is just a melting pot of all the sounds in one. its one big emotional, positive/negative, noisy vomit. its ok i guess. i liked how it was better in the late 90s early 00s.

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