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1. The goth subculture originally evolved in the late '70s and early '80s out of the punk subculture. goth bands: Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, [Alien Sex Fiend], Specimen 2. There are also sad little teens who listen to metal and consider themselves 'goth', but all they are are metalheads who happen to like the colour black and truly have no knowledge of what the goth scene came from. NON-goth bands: Slipknot, Cradle of Filth, HIM, [Marilyn Manson] 3. Also non-goth are cybergoths (aka gravers, which is short for goth + raver), although they are sometimes incorrectly labeled goth. But most do tend to realise they are not goth and identify more with the [industrial] subculture. cybergoth bands: VNV Nation, Apoptygma Berzerk, Icon of Coil, Razed in Black
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