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These are the 30 spoke wire wheels that were a very rarely chosen upgrade option avail. on 1983, 1984 FWD Cadillac Eldorado's and made by Cragar wire wheels for a very short time period, hence the terms 83's, 84's, which denotes their model year made..the 84's are the most sought after and the outward spokes "poke" out the farthest of any from the vehicle wheel well, as in the spokes actually extend outwards beyond the profile of the car for a really smooth sitting & unique gangster look, now that these wheels are very hard to find and very expensive people are calling just about every 30 spoke set of wheels "84's" and swangas, elbows, etc. In reality these others do not really poke at all and are just the standard issue 30 spoke cragar "starwire" wheels which are easy to get and made for RWD cars as well...not the ones made for the cadillac FWD eldorados that everyone is looking for...these old originals run about 5k-10k+ for a good clean set and are ultra hard to find anywhere..if you have seen a REAL set of 84's pokin' then you know the difference is HUGE! You can find the regular non "poking" 30's made by cragar on ebay for around $500-$1500 a set depending on the size, gold/chrome, condition, etc.

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