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Ken Ham the insult is drawn from two Old Testament references in the King James Version that torques the Independent Baptists when you really point this out, 2 Kings 18:27 and Hebrews 12:8 from the same translation. The insult came from the joint weighing in on the movement with the historian behind NoLifeTilMetal as he pointed out "bastard" as I pointed out "drink your own piss and eat your own dung." We started chuckling like kids who were swearing outside of parental earshot.
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